tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post998690776709608134..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: The Conversion Was Not the Call of St. Paul the ApostleAdorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-67897729632880885122010-02-12T17:49:53.248-06:002010-02-12T17:49:53.248-06:00I read another take on the young man who walked aw...I read another take on the young man who walked away sad... that he lost his wealth, his standing, his morality, everything, and ended up as the thief on the cross, humbly begging Jesus for mercy-- which our Lord gave.<br /><br />I like the idea about St. Paul too!Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06624317806947588259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-44512713571983573062010-01-27T13:38:27.502-06:002010-01-27T13:38:27.502-06:00If I were the young man who went away sad, I sure ...If I were the young man who went away sad, I sure as heck wouldn't want to advance it as a claim of apostolic authority! <br /><br />"Yeah, I refused to learn from Jesus. Follow me!" <br /><br />I'm not saying it's true; but what with the young man who ran away leaving his cloak behind, and "the disciple Jesus loved", both going unnamed though known to tradition, it's not unheard of. <br /><br />The technique of using similar wording to connect stories and reveal meaning is definitely something the sacred authors did on purpose. Even if Paul isn't himself the young man, it's likely that the stories are supposed to be connected in our minds (assuming the Greek as well as the English translation is similar).Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-59240353108499399652010-01-27T13:28:01.337-06:002010-01-27T13:28:01.337-06:00Tom ~ Thanks for your comment. to be clear, I am n...Tom ~ Thanks for your comment. to be clear, I am not advancing this as Biblical scholarship, but only for meditation. <br /><br />However, if you want to talk Biblical scholarship, you are trying to make an argument from silence, which simply isn't logical. Whether Paul was that rich young man or not really doesn't affect his ministry or what he was called by God to do. If he didn't mention it or write of it, that doesn't mean he's NOT the rich young man. <br /><br />So really, it would be misleading for someone to try to argue this from the other side as well. <br /><br />Simply put, scripture doesn't support either position, nor do I intend to belabor any points about it. <br /><br />Again, I WROTE this as a meditation that came from an idea advanced by a very good priest, who himself stated that it is not doctrine or an official "Catholic position."Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-34771521237532547062010-01-27T12:50:21.302-06:002010-01-27T12:50:21.302-06:00This is a nice meditation indeed, one that offers ...This is a nice meditation indeed, one that offers much food for thought. It is quite misleading however, to make this connection with any amount of veracity. <br />St. Paul never claims to have met Jesus while he was on earth. He always refers to his conversion story. Being a man given to making authenticity claims of his apostleship, he would surely have mentioned in his letters if he actually met Jesus as a rich young man. <br />There are many other reasons why St. Paul cannot be the rich young man, but it is not important to list them all here. <br />Again, I do think that the comparison makes for a nice spiritual meditation, but that's about it.tomschulztehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15897529366408648406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-80129971732077202802010-01-26T21:22:24.180-06:002010-01-26T21:22:24.180-06:00Sandy ~ Me, too, and I linked above to my own musi...Sandy ~ Me, too, and I linked above to my own musings on this and an old RCIA talk I gave on it. All well within Catholic teaching. <br /><br />But this idea really struck me and has given me MUCH food for thought!Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-10941950078309356862010-01-26T13:21:56.943-06:002010-01-26T13:21:56.943-06:00Thanks for this post.I have often wondered what ha...Thanks for this post.I have often wondered what happenned to that young man from the Gospel,and how he fared in later life.The idea that he might have been St Paul is fascinating!sandynoreply@blogger.com