tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post6878307463557224356..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: General Absolution = FORBIDDEN!Adorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-82221609499934860212008-12-15T15:15:00.000-06:002008-12-15T15:15:00.000-06:00the-rooster ~ Thanks for your comment. Certainly E...the-rooster ~ Thanks for your comment. Certainly Eastern Catholics are faithful and believe the same things (through perhaps different expression), however, Eastern Orthodox are NOT Catholic and although they share many of our beliefs, they do depart on some different things. As such, they are not called "Catholic". <BR/><BR/>In case anyone else drops by and reads this: Maronite, Ruthenian, Byzantine, etc., are all Catholic churches. Greek Orthodox (aka Eastern Orthodox), Russian Orthodox, and some others are NOT in union with Rome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-73134811679495075892008-12-15T15:06:00.000-06:002008-12-15T15:06:00.000-06:00Hi there,Eastern Catholics are faithful to the Mag...Hi there,<BR/><BR/>Eastern Catholics are faithful to the Magisterium. They believe everything that the church teaches. They may express it in a different way, but the essence is exactly the same. Otherwise they wouldn't be called "Catholic".<BR/><BR/>Peace be with you!Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08592538623046593819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-3527678576158911902008-12-09T20:34:00.000-06:002008-12-09T20:34:00.000-06:00Hi, Warren, interesting question. And that was a ...Hi, Warren, interesting question. And that was a pretty good entry in Wikipedia (I don't tend to trust Wiki with truly reliable info). <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I'm not familiar with their form of the Sacrament. However, if that IS what they hold, well, it's not scriptural. Jesus, and the Apostles were very clear in that we can lose our salvation through sin. They state very clearly what types of sins will indicate that we will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. <BR/><BR/>(ie fornicators, drunkards, aldulterers, etc...) <BR/><BR/>There are Orthodox priests who blog...if you check out Crescat's blog (linked on my sidebar), she has Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox links. Maybe one of them can answer that question definitively for you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-68770822173302943792008-12-09T20:24:00.000-06:002008-12-09T20:24:00.000-06:00Hi Adoro.I'm 100% in agreement with you and Fr. Hu...Hi Adoro.<BR/><BR/>I'm 100% in agreement with you and Fr. Hulk.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes, though, I wonder.... What is the practice in the Eastern Catholic rite churches? What is the practice among the orthodox? I believe one of the large differences between the East and the West lies here. I wonder sometimes how we came to have such wild differences, and whether or not such wild differences exist in the Eastern Catholics and ourselves. <BR/><BR/>Check this out:<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrament_of_Penance_(Catholic_Church)<BR/><BR/>At the bottom is the Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic form of the sacrament of penance. Do Eastern Catholics deny the idea of grave/mortal sin, and of there being such a thing as a state of mortal sin? <BR/><BR/>WarrenWarrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04053407632823479165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-5114950496636529622008-12-08T21:15:00.000-06:002008-12-08T21:15:00.000-06:00"Owen ~ As long as you're not talking schizm! lol"..."Owen ~ As long as you're not talking schizm! lol"<BR/><BR/><BR/>As a former protestant it's tempting but darn it, I believe in the teachings of the Church.owenswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00540186205959897960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-52892847763593054472008-12-08T21:05:00.000-06:002008-12-08T21:05:00.000-06:00Maureen ~ My parish doesn't even do communal servi...Maureen ~ My parish doesn't even do communal services. We have the Sacrament available multiple times per day. But twice per year they have priests come in all day/evening, and other parises in our area do the same thing. So no "pseudo-liturgy", just a phalanx of priests to take on the multitudes of penitents. <BR/><BR/>It's awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-47012920582168749952008-12-08T20:47:00.000-06:002008-12-08T20:47:00.000-06:00We have lots of penance services with individual a...We have lots of penance services with individual absolution. Herd everybody into church, read or sing a couple things to make them think, maybe read an examination of conscience -- and then split into lines, 'cause there's five or ten priests all waiting to hear your confession!<BR/><BR/>Makes me a little paranoid to go to confession out in the open like that, but it does get people to go. <BR/>Also, the porta-confessional somebody built makes an appearance.<BR/><BR/>And then, when people hear there's confession going on, people suddenly appear from everywhere to join one of the lines. You start with maybe forty people at the service, and end up with a hundred or two hundred more in line. We won't let the poor priests go home.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-68757882334504968332008-12-08T20:41:00.000-06:002008-12-08T20:41:00.000-06:00Melody ~ I've never heard of a Gen Absolution serv...Melody ~ I've never heard of a Gen Absolution service that actually involves individual confession. In fact, I know someone who converted to Catholicism, somehow managed to avoid personal confession, and won't go to anythig other than Gen Absolution. Because they DON'T offer anything but that. :-( <BR/><BR/>Please pray for him. He's up there in years...his daughter and I both hope he does finally make his Confession! <BR/><BR/>Owen ~ As long as you're not talking schizm! lolAdorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-29469999972870045732008-12-08T20:35:00.000-06:002008-12-08T20:35:00.000-06:00Just today I was reading an excellent article on t...Just today I was reading an excellent article on the topic at fisheaters.com - not for the faint of heart.<BR/><BR/>And, I am still trying to find a way to write about my first First Friday mass and my second ever High Latin Mass - where, interestingly enough, the celebrant noted the new information provided at the back on what to expect when you come to Confession now because they are following that which has been set out to accompany the Extra Ordinary Form of the Mass. Yes, it's Extra Ordinary Penance. Woo hoo.<BR/><BR/>Don't tell the people in my parish but I could be being drawn elsewhere.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://owenswain.com" REL="nofollow">My Art</A><BR/><A HREF="http://luminousmiseries.ca" REL="nofollow">My Catholic faith</A><BR/>Our prayer initiative <A HREF="http://onionboy.typepad.com/a_month_for_the_souls_in_/" REL="nofollow">A Month for the Souls in Purgatory</A>owenswainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00540186205959897960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-35431897523165355302008-12-08T20:32:00.000-06:002008-12-08T20:32:00.000-06:00It's weird, but even in the whacked-out '70's I ne...It's weird, but even in the whacked-out '70's I never encountered a priest who gave general absolution without personal confession. Not doubting that it happens, just must have missed it. When I was a somewhat bad teenager, I certainly would have liked to have gone to such a penance service. The next best thing was a priest who didn't speak English ("You are sorree..yes, no? Make good act of contrition!)Melody Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00442985285647041700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-26970047079064773872008-12-08T17:11:00.000-06:002008-12-08T17:11:00.000-06:00Angela ~ Oh, I'm sure this topic will come up agai...Angela ~ Oh, I'm sure this topic will come up again! * sigh * <BR/><BR/>Fr. Hulk ~ Thanks for stopping by and commenting, and for your link of my post... OK, now I'm dizzy, too. And if you stop by again, you're right that those who hold those illicit services don't mention that all-important detail of individual confession of mortal sins being REQUIRED. I'm hoping that someone who doesn't know that stops by here and your blog and gets that message. <BR/><BR/>LM ~ I know why they're afraid of going; because their conscience has told them they have, in fact, done something wrong and they are deserving of Hell. And so they've already condemned themselves, and anything that makes them believe that they are actually ok and everyone is ok is a comfort. Unfortunately, it doesn't clean up the mess. As you and I have learned. I used to be like that, too, but thankfully never got into the new-agey touchey-feely services. I think the Holy Spirit must have kept me away. And my Guardian Angel working overtime!Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-44963216189243640922008-12-08T15:47:00.000-06:002008-12-08T15:47:00.000-06:00Even if there were an 'act of God' type di...Even if there were an 'act of God' type disaster - we would STILL have to go to Confession (face-to-face) with a Priest. So, why not do it that way first??? *eyes rolling*<BR/><BR/>Anyway - this 'nicey-feely' type Confession sounds an awful lot like the on-line confessions that are taking off.<BR/><BR/>It's like they're afraid of going...why??? Yeah, you HAVE to voice your sins before a Priest... but what they don't understand is that this Priest is only there because of God! It's not accusing yourself in front of the Priest - it's accusing yourself in front of Jesus Christ, who is standing right behind the Priest! And...for that matter, He already knows WHAT you did & how many times you did it!<BR/><BR/>whew!<BR/><BR/>thing is ... I used to be one of those people. Give me the 'nicey-feely' new-age type confessions (writing them down on a piece of paper & then burning them so the smoke from the paper will then travel up to God). Yup! Did it.<BR/><BR/>What I didn't expect was that I never felt better after doing that. weird. I wrote everything down ... did what the Priest & Sister said ... but yet, still felt empty.<BR/><BR/>The first time I returned back to the confessional, the REAL confessional, I cried when I came out (also cried when I was in there) ... but I felt like I was walking on air! I FELT Jesus' mercy! I FELT His love! <BR/><BR/>There is nothing like that feeling ... and oh, if we all could just have that same experience! wow!Lillian Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11649542879780055108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-62954971640192731312008-12-08T15:32:00.000-06:002008-12-08T15:32:00.000-06:00Thanks Adoro for your small correction. I've post...Thanks Adoro for your small correction. I've posted a post about your post. I have to go lay down now, I'm dizzy.Fr. Crankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01110026559516989062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-87722438482884146272008-12-08T15:19:00.000-06:002008-12-08T15:19:00.000-06:00Sterling and timely post. Please repost it again d...Sterling and timely post. Please repost it again during Lent.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08046773358292402621noreply@blogger.com