tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post585319707946961319..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: How Many Times in One Day Can I Receive Holy Communion?Adorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-62131676170897283622010-06-27T05:16:00.987-05:002010-06-27T05:16:00.987-05:00"Hidden One ~ I would have thought that, too...."Hidden One ~ I would have thought that, too. But based on what our professor, a Canon Lawyer says, a communion service, as it involves the reception of Holy Communion is STILL considered to be a "Eucharistic celebration". <br /><br />It goes back to reading the Law strictly about what it actually says...not what we would prefer that it say." <br /><br />You raise an interesting point about whether “Eucharistic celebration” refers to the Mass. I always understood that it does in fact mean “Mass” and does not include “Liturgy of the Word with the Eucharist” I was checking out the various occurrences of “eucharistic celebration” in the Code of Canon Law – but tellingly, the canon where it most unambiguously means “Mass” (so far) is the canon immediately following the canon of interest. 917 says it has to be within a eucharistic celebration. 918 clearly intends that a eucharistic celebration is a Mass.<br />Can. 917 One who has received the blessed Eucharist may receive it again on the same day only within a eucharistic celebration in which that person participates, without prejudice to the provision of can. 921 §2. <br />Can. 918 It is most strongly recommended that the faithful receive holy communion in the course of a eucharistic celebration. If, however, for good reason they ask for it apart from the Mass, it is to be administered to them, observing the liturgical rites. <br /><br />Book IV, Part I, Title III, Chapter I, Article 3 (924 et seq.) deals with “The Rites and Ceremonies of the Eucharistic Celebration” and clearly deals with the Mass – see especially 926 and 927:<br /><br />Can. 926 In the eucharistic celebration, in accordance with the ancient tradition of the latin Church, the priest is to use unleavened bread wherever he celebrates Mass. <br />Can. 927 It is absolutely wrong, even in urgent and extreme necessity, to consecrate one element without the other, or even to consecrate both outside the eucharistic celebration. <br /><br /><br />1248 clearly indicates it means “Mass” – and that it doesn’t mean “liturgy of the Word.”<br /><br />Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a holyday itself or on the evening of the previous day. <br />§2 If it is impossible to assist at a e celebration, either because no sacred minister is available or for some other grave reason, the faithful are strongly recommended to take part in a liturgy of the Word, if there be such in the parish church or some other sacred place, which is celebrated in accordance with the provisions laid down by the diocesan Bishop; or to spend an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family or, as occasion presents, in a group of families. <br /><br />Peace,<br />TheresaTheresa Deariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04287939951550374162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-13896809368075187042009-05-12T09:24:00.000-05:002009-05-12T09:24:00.000-05:00Why receive holy communion twice in one day?
An...Why receive holy communion twice in one day? <br /><br />An answer...<br /><br />This has been a serious question for me to resolve. I had been given different answers by different catechists and needed to obtain a more definitive answer.<br /><br />I was received into the Church at the Easter Vigil this yearand the RCIA Director requested that all of us continue to attend Mass together at the 8:30AM Mass. She wanted those who supported and prayed for us during Lent could see that we were now participating in the Eucharist. We have been asked to continue this practice through Pentecost<br /><br />However, I've been serving as a Minister of Hospitality for over two years at the 7:00AM Mass on Sunday. Along with having a continued obligation to serve as a Minister of Hospitality, many of those who attend the 7:00AM Mass have become close friends. We are sufficiently short-handed at 7:00AM that I serve every Sunday and not every other month or every three months as is common at other masses on Sunday.<br /><br />So... <br />I had an obligation to participate in two Masses but had been given instructions that I was to receive communion only once.<br /><br />By asking others who might know the actual regulations concerning this issue, I learned that receiving communion more than once was permissible. <br /><br />In my case it is only connected to meeting my obligations in my parish without leading others to a state of confusion about why I was not receiving communion at one of the two Masses. <br /><br />I can only guess that others may encounter situations in which receiving communion more than once at the usual Sunday or daily masses is a reasonable thing to do.<br /><br />For those wondering about my blog name: my given name is Michael and my confirmation name is Therese.<br /><br />Peace & Blessings,<br />Michael ThereseMichaelTheresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00760615518067046921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-56865650858783797052009-02-14T21:36:00.000-06:002009-02-14T21:36:00.000-06:00I did some more research, and submitted a question...I did some more research, and submitted a question to CA, using http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/communion_dispositions.htm as a reference.Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-22741850145014199562009-02-14T21:08:00.000-06:002009-02-14T21:08:00.000-06:00Oh good... time to fire one off at Catholic Answer...Oh good... time to fire one off at Catholic Answers. [I thought that she was wrong too!]Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-37777617716345659912009-02-14T19:01:00.000-06:002009-02-14T19:01:00.000-06:00Hidden One ~ Well, I inquired today at class. Our...Hidden One ~ Well, I inquired today at class. <BR/><BR/>Our prof, a Canon Lawyer (I don't think Michelle Arnold is one, but don't know) said that she's wrong. <BR/><BR/>Why? Just read the canon! It says ONLY water or medicine are permitted. Gum does not fall into the category of medicine or water. <BR/><BR/>HOWEVER - there may be cases that gum CAN fit under the category of medicine, thus if it legitimately fits there, then it does not break the fast. However, if someone is chewing it for the sake of pleasure, for the flavor, etc...then it breaks the fast. Sugar and flavoring ARE food, not medicine, and so gum DOES break the fast under normal conditions. <BR/><BR/>Hope that helps!Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-75716361669097594192009-02-14T07:46:00.000-06:002009-02-14T07:46:00.000-06:00I look forward to reading the answer that you rece...I look forward to reading the answer that you receive. :-)Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-42574640129800007182009-02-14T05:16:00.000-06:002009-02-14T05:16:00.000-06:00Hmm....interesting. I'll ask about this in Canon L...Hmm....interesting. I'll ask about this in Canon Law this morning, too. (the more I learn, the more questions I have! lol!) <BR/><BR/>The canon states "only" medicine and water are permissible. If we strictly read the canon, even though gum isn't technically "food", it certainly is not medicine and water. <BR/><BR/>I'll ask in class.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-55958670259066961492009-02-14T00:23:00.000-06:002009-02-14T00:23:00.000-06:00I'll look at the article momentarily... incidental...I'll look at the article momentarily... incidentally, I found CA's explanation as to why it doesn't break the fast. http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=309455Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-88771506008574855782009-02-11T22:26:00.000-06:002009-02-11T22:26:00.000-06:00HIdden One ~ This article may help you understand ...HIdden One ~ This article may help you understand the purpose and scope of Canon Law and why it doesn't answer questions about minor points such as "what exactly breaks the fast?" or "how late can I be to Mass?" : <BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.ewtn.com/library/CANONLAW/CANINTER.HTMAdorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-69875593934189356642009-02-11T22:14:00.000-06:002009-02-11T22:14:00.000-06:00Hidden One ~ The answer to that is not to be found...Hidden One ~ The answer to that is not to be found in Canon Law. I've always heard that gum violates the fast. Just consider it...you're chewing gum at Mass and go up to receive Our Lord? Of COURSE it's a violation! <BR/><BR/>But the answer isn't in Canon Law. Remember...CL isn't there to deal with every tiny issue that arises. That's not what it's for.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-26177939144924454532009-02-11T21:42:00.000-06:002009-02-11T21:42:00.000-06:00Again, I've read conflicting info on CA about gum....Again, I've read conflicting info on CA about gum. Recently, i read that it didn't violate the fast, but I'm fairly certain that I've read before that it does. Adoro, could you provide the canon(s) or whatnot by which grounds gum does violate the fast? I'd like to fire off a Q to CA on that one. (Unless you'd like to do it. :P)Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-40351315168488786082009-02-10T20:32:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:32:00.000-06:00Maureen ~ Do you know of a document that actually ...Maureen ~ Do you know of a document that actually cites that? <BR/><BR/>Devotion ~ Yes, gum is considered to be food...particles of gum can be swallowed, or remain in the teeth, etc., Water is fine, if needed, however, and medication if needed.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-30039437672370432692009-02-10T20:24:00.000-06:002009-02-10T20:24:00.000-06:00when fasting before communion, isnt gum considere...when fasting before communion, isnt gum considered food in a sense? should you not chew gum within that hour fast?DevotedToMaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092907289696562868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-76652485240823967342009-02-10T17:54:00.000-06:002009-02-10T17:54:00.000-06:00If you really did have a time crunch or woke up la...If you really did have a time crunch or woke up late or something (and assuming you'd fasted), it's perfectly correct to scurry in at the Liturgy of the Eucharist, receive Communion, stick around till the next Mass (possibly eating a donut first), attend the Liturgy of the Word, and leave at the beginning of the Liturgy of the Eucharist. You could even get in the Liturgy of the Word at an evening Mass after hearing the Liturgy of the Eucharist at a morning one.<BR/><BR/>You wouldn't want to mix and match or play the minimums in normal life, of course. But in case you ever get really stuck (on a vacation or a crazy family emergency day), this stuff is good to know. That way, you won't have to feel pangs of unnecessary guilt or worry.<BR/><BR/>And of course, if you really can't get to Mass, you just can't get there. But for those of us who find it difficult to accept defeat, it is good to know how to finagle the occasional victory over Murphy's Law. :)Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-12123504239541332612009-02-10T17:45:00.000-06:002009-02-10T17:45:00.000-06:00Re: lateness -- The rule about getting to Mass in ...Re: lateness -- <BR/><BR/>The rule about getting to Mass in time for the Gospel (or the Homily, or at least before the Offertory) is that it doesn't count as attending Mass unless you get in at least some of the Liturgy of the Word, and the Liturgy of the Eucharist. Failing that, you have to come back to another Mass to get some Liturgy of the Word, or just confess defeat in fulfilling your Sunday obligation. (Which you can do without sin, if you have sufficient reason.)<BR/><BR/>Now, your local priest or EMHC might not want you to receive Communion unless you've attended Mass officially, but that rule isn't supposed to be for Communion reception that I've ever heard. I guess that if you came to Mass with the full intention of getting Communion _and_ purposefully not fulfilling your Sunday obligation, that'd be a mortal sin so you shouldn't be receiving. Or if they couldn't be sure you'd fasted at least an hour -- but really, that's the communicant's job to police, unless they saw you sprint into church at the Sanctus with half a cheeseburger sticking out of your mouth.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-36803756437832924642009-02-10T15:04:00.000-06:002009-02-10T15:04:00.000-06:00Um, yeah, one cannot just go in an grab Communion....Um, yeah, one cannot just go in an grab Communion. Stop that! lolAdorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-9457276890966168282009-02-10T13:26:00.000-06:002009-02-10T13:26:00.000-06:00Thanks! That not only makes sense, it's helpful! ...Thanks! That not only makes sense, it's helpful! I imagine the requirement to "participate" would also preclude pulling into a church parking lot, leaving the engine running, and dashing inside just long enough to receive Holy Eucharist for a second time then racing back to your car to screech away in a cloud of dust.<BR/><BR/>I should probably stop that, then. ;)Watchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998207925964353982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-6032853704945012282009-02-10T13:06:00.000-06:002009-02-10T13:06:00.000-06:00Watchman ~ Well, if you attend Mass with the inten...Watchman ~ Well, if you attend Mass with the intention of, say, taking a nap instead of actually engaging in prayer...that's not participation. <BR/><BR/>One always has to have the proper disposition...ie state of grace, etc. That doesn't mean distractions don't happen, just intent to be present with Our Lord worshiping Him as a community. <BR/><BR/>Hope that makes sense, quckly dashing off this comment!Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-89085406833010348302009-02-10T12:59:00.000-06:002009-02-10T12:59:00.000-06:00Why would participation be listed as a requirement...Why would participation be listed as a requirement if one participates merely by being present? In other words, how could one *fail* to meet that requirement? Who is excluded by that stipulation other than the absent?Watchmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998207925964353982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-86931597001132013982009-02-10T08:47:00.000-06:002009-02-10T08:47:00.000-06:00Hidden One ~ I would have thought that, too. But b...Hidden One ~ I would have thought that, too. But based on what our professor, a Canon Lawyer says, a communion service, as it involves the reception of Holy Communion is STILL considered to be a "Eucharistic celebration". <BR/><BR/>It goes back to reading the Law strictly about what it actually says...not what we would prefer that it say.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-2364983550987675862009-02-10T08:00:00.000-06:002009-02-10T08:00:00.000-06:00"The main requirement is that the 2nd reception is..."The main requirement is that the 2nd reception is a "Eucharistic Celebration" which is not limited to Mass, but MAY be a Communion Service."<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm... from what I've read on the CA website, a Eucharistic Celebration is only a Eucharistic Celebration if there is a Consecration...Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-14937252961804118452009-02-09T13:24:00.000-06:002009-02-09T13:24:00.000-06:00IC ~ Well, I'm not a canonist either. Just a stude...IC ~ Well, I'm not a canonist either. Just a student. <BR/><BR/>Your first question is one that does not belong to Canon Law, but to a Confessor. There are legitimate reasons for receiving twice in one day. When I was in high school I was a cantor, and I attended 2 Masses on Sunday, received both times. I was not aware of CL, but happy now to know that I was not in violation. <BR/><BR/>Your second question is actually one of our scenarios for this month, so it'll probably get answered next weekend. All I know is that the Latin word means "again" which would indicate a second time in the context of the rest of Can. 917. Not "ad infinitum". I believe that a previous law in the 1917 Code didn't offer any restriction at all and so this was in answer to that question. Canon 917 is a restrictive canon so has to be read in light of Canon 18. <BR/><BR/>But...I might have a better answer for you next weekend. Check back! (Myself, I'm going with whatever our professor says, considering he IS a Canon Lawyer!)Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-53963638059224622152009-02-09T13:18:00.000-06:002009-02-09T13:18:00.000-06:00I'm not a canon lawyer either (praise be, and no o...I'm not a canon lawyer either (praise be, and no offense to you canonists out there--I'm glad you enjoy it). But these are the questions *I* would ask:<BR/><BR/>When is twice reception not scrupulosity?<BR/><BR/>And if twice is OK, what the heck is wrong with three times? or four? Why is twice the limit? (unless you're so lucky to receive viaticum?!)The Ironic Catholichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12990289461877567408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-5809014009999683352009-02-09T12:43:00.000-06:002009-02-09T12:43:00.000-06:00Christina ~ Well, almost. You can, say, receive V...Christina ~ Well, almost. You can, say, receive Viaticum in the morning, and then later that day recover and attend Mass, a Communion Service, a Wedding, a Funeral (hopefully not your own, lol), etc. <BR/><BR/>The main requirement is that the 2nd reception is a "Eucharistic Celebration" which is not limited to Mass, but MAY be a Communion Service. <BR/><BR/>And yes, you can receive a third time if it is Viaticum. <BR/><BR/>:-)Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-54364597567419184522009-02-09T12:29:00.000-06:002009-02-09T12:29:00.000-06:00So, it sounds like you can receive communion twice...So, it sounds like you can receive communion twice in one day under most situations, with viaticum added as needed (thus could be 3 or more). You could go to a service (communion only or mass) in the morning, get hit by a bus and receive viaticum, find out your ok and go to mass with the kind priest, then have a heart attack that night and receive viaticum again...<BR/><BR/>It sounds like the only thing you can't do is go to a communion service as your second or (outside near death) go for a third.Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07592851515207841008noreply@blogger.com