tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post1709634648620854410..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: If You Are What You Should Be...Adorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-19250609847545783622008-10-16T14:40:00.000-05:002008-10-16T14:40:00.000-05:00Thank you, Adoro, for your posts on St. Catherine ...Thank you, Adoro, for your posts on St. Catherine of Siena. I intend now to read the <I>Dialogues</I> as soon as possible.Hidden Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042188431683942338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-34370284083124239172008-10-16T04:21:00.000-05:002008-10-16T04:21:00.000-05:00St. Therese gets the same deal. People are always ...St. Therese gets the same deal. People are always saying she wanted to be a priest. Um, yeah. Wanted to be a Crusader and die on the battlefield after wielding a sword for the Faith, too. :) The point of her vocational longings (of which there were a gazillion at the end of her life) was that she was made to feel them and then to realize that her real vocation was to love, which subsumed all vocations into itself. (The meta-vocation or ur-vocation, if you will.) <BR/><BR/>She wasn't sitting their planning out "My Career as a Priest", or fighting for women's ordination. There's no possible way to read that honestly into that long, long passage which is practically the climax of The Story of a Soul.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-64055775129494107142008-10-15T18:10:00.000-05:002008-10-15T18:10:00.000-05:00Kevin, thanks for the link. It turns out that the...Kevin, thanks for the link. It turns out that the closest quote to this by St. Francis has a much different meaning from what the kumbia crowd attributes to it. Basically to his brother religious, "get premission before you preach", and another line "preach with your deeds" where melded together to create the famous quote. Either way, it does not mean "don't tell me what the Bible says or what the Church teaches, that's judgemental just look at all the work I do for social justice".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-40281095616339354462008-10-15T17:07:00.000-05:002008-10-15T17:07:00.000-05:00If you consider what atheists, protestants, and ev...If you consider what atheists, protestants, and even some Catholics have done to our Lord's good name, is it any wonder they do the same to St. Catherine's good name?<BR/><BR/>as for maligned St. Francis, Pius XI wrote a wonderful encyclical, <A HREF="http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11RITEX.HTM" REL="nofollow">ON ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI (Rite Expiatis) </A><BR/><BR/><I>it is only right that Our children who labor in this field according to Our commands should in union with the numerous Franciscan brotherhood call to mind and praise the works, the virtues, and the spirit of the Seraphic Patriarch. While doing this, they must reject that purely imaginary figure of the Saint conjured up by the defenders of modern error or by the followers of luxury and worldly comforts, and seek to bring Christians to the faithful imitation of the ideal of sanctity which he exemplified in himself and which he learned from the purity and simplicity of the doctrines of the Gospels.</I>Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261197566240560777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-78706789296914884052008-10-15T17:02:00.000-05:002008-10-15T17:02:00.000-05:00Since then, I've also come across the blogs or oth...<I>Since then, I've also come across the blogs or other articles of two (or more) religious sisters who are also comparing St. Catherine of Siena to the dissident and highly mislead (and misleading) Srs. Prejean and Chittister, among others</I><BR/><BR/>as to these two individuals, I'd repeat Borat's quip "I had no idea what that old man was talking about."Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02261197566240560777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-2963114883130739832008-10-15T09:14:00.000-05:002008-10-15T09:14:00.000-05:00for vianney33: Amy Welborn wrote a blogpost back i...for vianney33: Amy Welborn wrote a blogpost back in July that provided links to sources debunking the provenance of a number of Catholic sayings including the SFA "quote" that causes the gastro-intestinal discomfort.<BR/><BR/>http://amywelborn.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/who-didnt-write-what/Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03841579842891991198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-92177758466945803072008-10-15T08:12:00.000-05:002008-10-15T08:12:00.000-05:00I love St. Catherine also, she is such an inspirat...I love St. Catherine also, she is such an inspiration! Thanks for another interesting post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-36259883371636235862008-10-15T07:20:00.000-05:002008-10-15T07:20:00.000-05:00Excellent commentary!While I have not heard nuns u...Excellent commentary!<BR/>While I have not heard nuns use St. Catherine in this way, I am very aware of their twisting of anything that will work to their liberal advantage. As Joe says, St. Francis has been hyjacked by all sorts of goof-balls be they religious or secular like PETA people. I think I may barf if I hear his over used and abused quote, "preach the gospel always, and when necessary use words". I wonder if he actually said that. <BR/>The heart of the problem with these liberal nuns and priests and brothers and lay persons, is that their works seem to spring from a desire to cover their lack of true faith. It is almost opposite of what most Protestants believe, that we are saved by faith alone. These people seem to think we are saved by works alone. The Church says we are saved by faith and works. Meaning our works flow out from our faith. <BR/>If they only realized that St. Catherine's and St. Francis' works were a direct result of their faith and they were loyal to the Church not rampant dissenters.<BR/>How long must we put up with them? One more generation should do the trick. Just like their contracepting secular counterparts, they are not reproducing, but the faithful habit wearing nuns are. The names of these two great saints will be restored once the voices of the dissenters are silenced by the grave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-11886872388867521992008-10-14T22:00:00.000-05:002008-10-14T22:00:00.000-05:00The same thing can be said about St. Francis of As...The same thing can be said about St. Francis of Assisi...the things people say and do in his name, scandalous...I could go on all day...but I'm in the office :)Joe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.com