tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post114920825297850743..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: Sex and Marriage are SacredAdorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-14146588662090412312013-02-11T17:20:25.848-06:002013-02-11T17:20:25.848-06:00Vatican II said this in it's Constitution Dei ...Vatican II said this in it's Constitution Dei Verbum:<br />"Consequently it is not from Sacred Scripture alone that the Church draws her certainty about everything which has been revealed. Therefore both sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same sense of loyalty and reverence."<br /><br />Vatican II showed that traditions should be kept with loyalty. Jotatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-44433960118535805462007-02-10T16:48:00.000-06:002007-02-10T16:48:00.000-06:00Because their act will never be open to life. Thei...Because their act will never be open to life. Their physical union cannot create life; thus by their action, they are leaving God behind. Homosexual acts are, fundamentally, self-seeking. It is not a surrender to God and His will in a marital embrace. <BR/><BR/>In Genesis we read, "Male and female he created them". It is the union of male and female and the product of that union, a child begotten through self-sacrificial love, that is the image of God. It is not man alone or woman alone. <BR/><BR/>Man and man or woman and woman do not reflect God, and those unions lead only to self-seeking and the absence of new life. <BR/><BR/>Check out info by Christopher West or Jason Evert for a greater understanding on this. <BR/><BR/>This teaching does not exlcude contracepting couples, for they are also turning their backs on God through the use of barrier methods, meaning that their unions are also self-seeking.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-84441430560876140892007-02-10T16:41:00.000-06:002007-02-10T16:41:00.000-06:00"Because the very definition of their relationship..."Because the very definition of their relationship excludes God and excludes innocence"<BR/><BR/>Why - hypothetically - would a pair of homosexuals, who have a loving, committed, monagomous relationship all through their lives - be intrinsically excluding God?Sweating Through foghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07138602196953744517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-31350487685692029242007-02-09T07:14:00.000-06:002007-02-09T07:14:00.000-06:00Anon, Of course you disagree, you're speaking from...Anon,<BR/> <BR/>Of course you disagree, you're speaking from the same agenda I'm condemning. But thank you for commenting, anyway. <BR/><BR/>Also anon, I'm addressing homosexual BEHAVIOR. Sure, some people may have inclinations, but so do alcoholics. It does not legitimize their behavior. And anyone who uses animals to justify their own WILLFUL behavior is reducing their own personal dignity to a very degraded level. Whether there is or is not a homosexual gene in the animal population does nto exclude a human being from making the correct moral choice, no matter what that human being thinks he or she is sexually attracted to. <BR/><BR/>Anon, you really need to take the Bible into context and pay attention to actual history. <BR/><BR/>Abortion has ALWAYS been condemned by Christians, from the earliest days; it's in the Didache, which is an early Christian "catechism" of sorts. (All the same teachings of the Catholic Church today, incidentally). Look it up. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Additionally, you cite two pagans to justify abortion. Not very logical, for they did not understand the dignity of life in the Judeo-Christian tradition. We do not look to them for our moral decisions, but we study their philosophical writings. In our culture, it's now Christians who are killing their children for they have been twisted by our current culture. <BR/><BR/>And you provide a great example of that. Apparently you have forgotten that Jesus spoke out very strongly against sin, and sin has been defined in the Bible; yes, Jesus was forgivning, but I think you forget that he told the adulturous woman to SIN NO MORE. <BR/><BR/>Jesus didn't just offer a warm and fuzzy I'm-OK-you're-ok message, as much as you want to believe that. Sure, you can read the Bible and read only what makes you feel good...or you can read the Bible and take a good look at what Jesus really did and said. He holds us all to a high standard, you included.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-38669099631408448482007-01-30T23:28:00.000-06:002007-01-30T23:28:00.000-06:00I have to say I disagree with a lot of this but fo...I have to say I disagree with a lot of this but for the sake of avoiding people's boredom, I'll try to limit the scope of my response to a few points.<br /><br />1. You say "There is NOTHING natural about homosexual sex." But homosexuality and homosexual sex occurs all throughout nature. 8% of sheep are gay (cf. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/25/science/25sheep.html). There are gay penguins (cf. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL).<br />Just because something occurs in 8% of the population doesn't make it "unnatural." If 8% of the world's population were caucasian, does that mean caucasians are "unnatural"? On a side note, the gay sheep controversy is interesting because the evidence seems to suggest that by altering the brains of gay sheep, they can be made straight. I have a funny feeling that messing with the brains of straight sheep could make them gay as well. <br /><br />2. During the time of Jesus, homosexuality and abortion were just as prevalant then as they are now. Plato and Aristotle, who lived 500 years before Jesus, talk about abortion. Homosexuality and pederasty were a notable part of Greek (e.g. Plato's Symposium) and Roman (e.g. Suetonius' Lives of the Caesars) culture. But yet how much does Jesus himself say about these issues? Virtually nothing. What Jesus *does* talk about is being renouncing your possessions, helping the poor, being unmaterialistic, etc. <br />How can somehow claim to be a true Christian yet support "big business" (i think you know who i'm talking about)?<br /><br />signed: single and not quite celibateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1149260959650276362006-06-02T10:09:00.000-05:002006-06-02T10:09:00.000-05:00AMEN SISTER! You said it all.Signed: Single and C...AMEN SISTER! You said it all.<BR/><BR/>Signed: Single and Celibate,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1149215328032161642006-06-01T21:28:00.000-05:002006-06-01T21:28:00.000-05:00Excellent post, Adoro. You're sure to get people ...Excellent post, Adoro. You're sure to get people who accuse you of being homophobic, but so be it. Implied in what you say is an important point - the difference between those who are homosexual and those who are "gay."<BR/><BR/>Fr. Neuhaus once said the differenc was that "gay" activists defined themselves by their sexuality, whereas those with a same-sex attraction who were trying to live celibate, chaste lives defined themselves by their humanity - given to them by God.<BR/><BR/>We must always stress that we love the sinner, not the sin, and that we constantly pray that those with SSA receive the graces to deal with that burden (yes, I'm sure some will disagree that it is a burden); but at the same time we must not allow the radical homosexual agenda to destroy the institutions which we value.<BR/><BR/>This war of relativism has been thrust on us whether we like it or not. We must do what we can to win, and we may not win (after all, there's no guarantee this culture will continue to survive); but if we don't do anything we'll surely lose.Our Wordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188506164399989250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1149212646427232202006-06-01T20:44:00.000-05:002006-06-01T20:44:00.000-05:00Did I tell you I love this blog! ;-)Did I tell you I love this blog! <BR/><BR/>;-)Lynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17970851228593550726noreply@blogger.com