tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post9104677236629762061..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: The Epic Story of the Early Church - The HereticsAdorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-73272267441126185672008-03-31T12:09:00.000-05:002008-03-31T12:09:00.000-05:00Oh, anyway, I meant to preface most of my last com...Oh, anyway, I meant to preface most of my last comment by saying that this stuff causes brain freeze. :-P Without that comment the rest o fmy comment sounds illogical. And also...I froze on the test on the easy questions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-70913267749288798862008-03-31T12:08:00.000-05:002008-03-31T12:08:00.000-05:00Maureen ~ That was the problem Nestorius had...he ...Maureen ~ That was the problem Nestorius had...he was trying to rationalize the Trinity. They all tried to rationalize the Trinity. And went off the rails. <BR/><BR/>God cannot suffer in his Divinity, however, He DID suffer in his Humanity. Jesus has 2 natures; Human and Divine (the hypostatic union). It was in his human nature that our suffering was dignified and elevated. It is why we can be united to the suffering of our Lord on the cross, for He did indeed suffer. <BR/><BR/>My brain didn't freeze over that...my brain froze over things in general on the test. And in all our talk about the unfathomable Trinity in two classes, all the philosophy...yeah, that's brain freeze territory. But all the things you bring up, I learned a year ago, but never had a problem understanding. <BR/><BR/>But the Trinity...oy vey! LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-9843910575956137462008-03-31T11:55:00.000-05:002008-03-31T11:55:00.000-05:00Melody - God as God can't suffer. God as God doesn...Melody - <BR/><BR/>God as God can't suffer. God as God doesn't have emotions, because God as God doesn't change. He is love and nothing but love. This is why God is called "impassible".<BR/><BR/>Now, this doesn't mean that God doesn't care -- I mean, He went to a lot of trouble so that the Son could get a human part of Himself that could suffer, even. You can use words about feelings as an analogy to what's going on with God, so you can talk about "God's wrath" and "God's laughter" and so on, just as the Bible does. That covers all practical purposes, since we pretty much have to use approximate language about God.<BR/><BR/>But the Father and the Holy Spirit, and the Son in His divine nature, doesn't/don't really have emotions, per se. It's literally not in God's nature.<BR/><BR/>This is the part where your brain is supposed to go all hurty, so don't worry about it.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-64208887196148404942008-03-31T07:41:00.000-05:002008-03-31T07:41:00.000-05:00Adoro, what a great idea! A book about the early C...Adoro, what a great idea! <BR/>A book about the early Church including the heresy's would be so worthwhile! How many times have I heard (from my university professors who should know better) misunderstood and ignorant claims about the Catholic Church? <BR/>Too many!<BR/><BR/>Good luck!<BR/><BR/>AliceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-40262099063610063972008-03-30T18:23:00.000-05:002008-03-30T18:23:00.000-05:00Melody ~ Yup, we've been talking all the way throu...Melody ~ Yup, we've been talking all the way through this class about the modern-day forms these heresies have taken. All the way back to the beginning. <BR/><BR/>Ray ~ Yeah..the "enlightened ones" of day are actually 2,000 years behind. <BR/><BR/>Uncle Jim ~ I hope it's not a traumatic thing for you! <BR/><BR/>Tertium Quid ~ Well, I'm happy to be useful! :-) <BR/><BR/>To all...I bombed the test. My mind went blank. I couldn't remember the councils, I couldn't remember the Saints, I couldn't remember the basic facts you see up in this post! <BR/><BR/>So...I'm chalking today up to an exercise in humility (and frustration...)Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-73145451201835233462008-03-30T18:05:00.000-05:002008-03-30T18:05:00.000-05:00I am studying vicariously through you. God bless ...I am studying vicariously through you. God bless you. You are getting an education many of us wish to have. God be with you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-57260521128240177032008-03-30T12:13:00.000-05:002008-03-30T12:13:00.000-05:00i haven't heard anyone use the word / term homo-ou...i haven't heard anyone use the word / term homo-ousious but a couple of times since i took a course on the 'creeds' 17 years ago ... and now you've brought it up all over again.uncle jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01879341171634900790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-7799927295578062532008-03-30T08:54:00.000-05:002008-03-30T08:54:00.000-05:00The Council of Nicea At this council, the sympath...<I><B>The Council of Nicea</B> At this council, the sympathizers of Arius postured and acquiesced, choosing to define the terms according to their own chosen understanding; giving a pretense at obedience and agreement while working out their treachery in dark corners.</I><BR/><BR/>It appears that our liberals/modernists/progressives of today did not invent that technique. As Melody said, "There is nothing new under the sun."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332138030182107580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-76467019030297375832008-03-30T08:39:00.000-05:002008-03-30T08:39:00.000-05:00There is nothing new under the sun; all of those m...There is nothing new under the sun; all of those misunderstandings of the nature of Jesus are still around in some form today. It is easy to see how Sabellius got off on the wrong track; because the Father surely did suffer along with His Son, in the way any parent suffers when a child dies a horrible death. (Except God is infinite so the suffering would be infinite). Glad I don't have to sort it all out, I'd likely get it wrong! Good luck on the test.Melody Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00442985285647041700noreply@blogger.com