tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post115274922545279545..comments2023-09-22T06:56:46.508-05:00Comments on Adoro te Devote: The Glass ChaliceAdorohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-8679017161102521852007-11-22T09:50:00.000-06:002007-11-22T09:50:00.000-06:00Thanks, Adoro, for your unique point of view as a ...Thanks, Adoro, for your unique point of view as a woman Catholic on this issue. You highlight a number of points that are right on target.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-42789960880497283412007-11-22T06:46:00.000-06:002007-11-22T06:46:00.000-06:00Spot on as always!(I especially like the "Equality...Spot on as always!<BR/><BR/>(I especially like the "Equality does not mean exactly alike in all ways" paragraph, great concrete example in there.) ;)Father Schnippelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04731842661336037433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1154372679981162212006-07-31T14:04:00.000-05:002006-07-31T14:04:00.000-05:00Most of these women's disagreements with the Churc...Most of these women's disagreements with the Church don't stop with <I>Ordinatio Sacerdotalis</I>, but usually continue on to challenge the Magisterium on reproductive choice, sexuality, and basic christology. Even if their mock ordinations didn't incur a <I>latae sententiae</I> excommunication, their advocacy of other heretical beliefs would anyway.<BR/> The whole argument reminds me of Monty Python's 'Dead Parrot Sketch'.Brother Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05697860817229595126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1154274774554548832006-07-30T10:52:00.000-05:002006-07-30T10:52:00.000-05:00Rosa, Thank you for commenting. Your argument, ho...Rosa, <BR/><BR/>Thank you for commenting. <BR/><BR/>Your argument, however, holds no water, and it certainly can't hold wine and turn it into the blood of Christ. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry that you feel that the Truth is "myopic", however, I have to ask...who are you to demand that the Church change to meet your preferences? <BR/><BR/>The Lord has set down his directives, and claiming that African Americans weren't present at the Last Supper is a straw man argument and you know it. It seems you have not seen the number of African-American, Vietnamese,Chinese, Korean, etc. priests out there? <BR/><BR/>And attacking the priesthood on the basis of a very small percentage of pedophile and homosexual priests (most of the victims were male- check your statistics) has nothing to do with anything. You are looking for an argument, not for a solution, and you will NOT find the solution in a bunch of mislead women. <BR/><BR/>They have excommunicated themselves through their actions, and they can be reconciled through renouncing their actions an in bringing themselves into unity with the Church. It's not the other way around.<BR/><BR/><BR/>There is a great deal of theology behind the reasons for the male-only priesthood, should you care to take time to learn it. <BR/><BR/>I sense, though, that you are more interested in flaming than in having a discussion, given the tone of your post. <BR/><BR/>If you are truly open to the Holy Spirit, come back and I'll try to answer your questions. None of us has the right to demand that the Church change to fit our preferences...it is we who must change in order to become closer to God. <BR/><BR/>I'm so sorry you can't see beyond your own myopic view. Pray to St. Lucy, the patron saint of eyes. I will do the same. <BR/><BR/>God bless you.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1154211067489796142006-07-29T17:11:00.000-05:002006-07-29T17:11:00.000-05:00Adoro - it is a sad commentary of the "church" whe...Adoro - it is a sad commentary of the "church" when the sacrament of Holy Orders is dependent on one's anatomy. Were there African Americans or Asians at the last supper? No, oh, so, we should not ordain them, after all, they do not "look" like Christ. What arrogance! We stood by when the pedophile priest were scurrying out of the woodwork by the criminal justice system and I don't recall any talk of "ex-communication". God forgive you and your myoptic followers.<BR/>Rosa LundyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1152927107845974502006-07-14T20:31:00.000-05:002006-07-14T20:31:00.000-05:00Funny you should bring up the "community" issue he...Funny you should bring up the "community" issue here...I was actually thinking about blogging about it. I realized today that any "community" which has removed "Church" from the title is focusing on the laity as God.Adorohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02853244433854822731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15170815.post-1152818607977683062006-07-13T14:23:00.000-05:002006-07-13T14:23:00.000-05:00Good point about the "glass chalice", Adoro!I'll h...Good point about the "glass chalice", Adoro!<BR/><BR/>I'll have to remember that if/when I run into one on one of my church expeditions. They're out there.<BR/><BR/>Another powerful bit of symbolism found in "progressive" churches these days is the prominent use of the word "community" rather then church or parish on their web pages and building signage.<BR/><BR/>Communities are "horizontal" in focus. The emphasis of the programs of the parish is on the parishioners and their relationship to each other and what they can receive from the ministries of the parish.<BR/><BR/>Traditional parishes are "vertical" in focus, with the emphasis being on the worship of God in Heaven and the parishioners' goal of ultimately joining Him there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332138030182107580noreply@blogger.com